April 28, 2009

Alan Watt on The Patrick Timpone Show

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Patrick Timpone: And a very pleasant, Good Evening to you.  This is Patrick Timpone.  And this is oneradionetwork.com.  It's a Tuesday night, April 28th, seven o'clock Central, 7pm Central Time, could be any time where you are, because we're broadcasting worldwide every night, 7pm Central on oneradionetwork.com over the internet.  We may talk about the internet tonight, with Alan Watt, who's our first guest tonight.  And so, please welcome Mr. Watt with me.  Alan Watt, who's been on this show before.  An excellent man when it comes to research, researching on just how this world works.  Who's behind it, what they're up to, why they're up to what they're doing, and how they do it.  His website is called cuttingthroughthematrix.com.  Several books you can get, Volume 1, 2, & 3 of his works, and those are called Cutting Through the Matrix, for different ideas, and then Waiting for the Miracle.  Lots of CDs, DVDs, and all kinds of stuff.  And up Canada way, Mr. Watt, Good Evening.  How are you, sir?


Alan Watt: It's a pleasure to be back on, and I'm doing pretty good.


Patrick: And you are in Canada, correct?


Alan: I am.


Patrick: Has it began to sprung any Spring there yet, or are you still working on winter?


Alan: It's still a delayed reaction, I think.  It's still coming, and the buds are ready to go, and probably in the next two weeks we'll start to see the green appear. 


Patrick: Well, obviously you have a lot of quiet time up there, to yourself and your work.  And I'm curious.  I was thinking about it this morning, about our conversation tonight, and with everything that's going on today, especially, of course, the financial stuff, which we'll get into, Alan Watt, I'm curious about what kinds of things you think about and where you're putting a lot of your research, these days, in the last two, three, four, six, months, after this whole financial thing really kicked up its ugly head as they say.  What kind of things are you really keen on these days?


Alan: What I really think about is the fact that especially since about 2001, we've been on a roll, even before that really with Gulf War I.  That was really the signal for a whole new series of changes to take place worldwide in geopolitical restructuring.  What it really is, it's an ongoing war of standardization, of one culture, one system, across the planet.  And within that one system, you have all the systems, education, finance, etc, etc, etc.  Plus you also have the big foundations at the top that really truly guide politicians.  They buy and sell them, in fact.  They put them into power, many of the politicians at the top.  Most of them are all members of the CFR, as most listeners know.  So, we're simply working through a script that works intergenerationally, and Professor Carroll Quigley summed up this organization very well, being the historian for them.  He was the authorized historian for this world society.  And he was for everything that they were doing.  He objected a little bit about some of their methods, about keeping secrecy from the public.  Basically, he said that foundations, and in the 1800s, big foundations sprang up on behalf of the big banking families, international.  And they literally guide, control almost every facet, including education of societies across the planet.  They fund the universities, they fund academia.  So we're shaped, you see, we're shaped along a particular path.  They literally started off with eugenics being at the top of their list.  Basically in a post-industrial society that they saw coming in the 1800s, they considered there would be too many people on the planet.  They would have to reduce the population, to make them manageable.  And some of their founding members of some of their branches, like the Fabian Society, George Bernard Shaw, he's up on google there, an old, old talk, where he says, eventually the public will have to come to us.  And he classed himself amongst the superior type of evolved type of human.  He said, eventually people will have to come to us and justify why we should allow you to live. 


Patrick: Why we should allow you to live.


Alan: Yes, and so, literally what you have, it's not good enough to be born anymore and simply to exist.  Thirty, forty years ago, if you asked an average person, what are you all about?  They'd say, it's none of your business.  You didn't have to justify your reason for existence.  It was taken for granted, you live.  I think, therefore I am, and that's all there is to it.  Now, in this new Brave New World they're bringing in that the Huxleys wrote about in the 1930s, on behalf of these big foundations, we find that now, they're basically saying through propaganda that you must have a purpose to serve the World State.  That's also part of the charter for the Council on Foreign Relations. 


Patrick: I wonder, Alan Watt, is if one thinks or they do, or whatever the term is correctly, control the world, control the people with the money and everything that we'll get into tonight, why does it need to be one culture?  Or one world?  Or one currency?  I mean, as long as you control it anyway, why get the people all feisty and scared with moving to one?   Just keep them the way they are; as long as you control it, what does it matter?


Alan: With them, it's not good enough.  They like everything to be tidy and formatted.  We're dealing really with a mentality that's the ultimate control freak, you might say.  And having everything, people doing their own thing within a system, is not good enough.  They want a standardized world culture, because the bottom line is to program people like computers, generation to generation, along the same format.  If we're all living within our own little spheres, it's more difficult, it's more time consuming for them, but if it's a standardized world culture.  Now, the world culture will not be American, you see.  They're using the U.S. and the finances and the military power of the U.S. to bring it all about, but it's to be a new global culture.  If you noticed, if you noticed since 2001, pretty well every freedom that we thought we had has been taken from us.  And it hasn't stopped yet.  So, the old American idea of individualism, which the U.S. was known for, that's why it stood up across the planet, it stood out, was individualism.  That has been classified at the United Nations as the most extreme enemy of the world and peace, is individualism.  We must all be the collective now, you see.


Patrick: A massive kind of Socialist...


Alan: Absolutely.  Fabian Socialism to the extreme.  It's more far left as far as the way of ruling us.  You see, they're using collectivism as the Club of Rome said, for massive bureaucracies worldwide to rule the people.  However, at the top, all the writers, the major writers in the last hundred-odd years, like Charles Galton Darwin, in his book, The Next Million Years, and he's the grandson of Charles Darwin, he said, we the elite will not alter ourselves, but we will alter, literally alter genetically, the masses to serve us better.  He says, there's always existed a form of slavery, with a dominant minority on top.  He says, I presume there always will be.  Huxley said the same thing, because they were basically members of the same family.  And they said that they must retain their ability for self-preservation, because they will be making the decisions for survival of the planet, but the masses won't need that.  We'll be dumbed down, genetically altered, run by experts. We won't have to think or decide about anything.  It will be done for us from cradle to grave, and that's what they call world peace, when we basically are unable to even think about fighting back.


Patrick: Well, speaking about altering the world genetically, we have one of the foremost experts on genetic engineering, genetically modified organisms, foods, next hour, Jeffrey Smith.  And so we're going to be talking about that at 8pm Central Time, One Radio Network.  Well, it's hard for us why, you've studied this so long, have you been able to understand what gets these people off, or in other words, what would be the upside or the pleasure of controlling millions of people who are like robots bumping into each other with no resistance, just kind of mind-numbing people.  That seems like a very dull kind of existence for the people at the top.  What could be the pleasure in that?


Alan: When you go into, just follow history down through the ages, and you look at all the famous people and conquerors in history, now today we term them as psychopaths, because....


Patrick: Hitler and such.


Alan: Hitler, Alexander the Great, William the Conqueror, they had an incredible, we can't fathom the lust for power over others.  We cannot even get into their mindset, it's so foreign to us, and because of that we miss it often until it's too late, and they've already risen to power.  These wealthy families down through the ages intermarry each other.  Now they become incredibly wealthy since they plunder, they start off plundering other countries.  And those families that succeed them, the dynasties, end up getting all the tributes.  Today we call it taxation, but taxation is tribute.  And they end up phenomenally rich.  There's one thing about them, they do pass on their psychopathic tendencies to their offspring.  And when you get the man and the woman both from dynastic families, who've won through conquering and slaughter, you basically are marrying psychopath with psychopath, guaranteeing the offspring will also have that ability, that trait.  The psychopath has one fear, and that's the public.  Because he knows perfectly well what he's doing to the public.  He knows he's robbing them.  He knows that as far as he's concerned, they are there to serve him.  So they live in fear.  There is always fear of rebellions, uprisings...


Patrick: That's what keeps them going.


Alan: That's what keeps them going.  They live in this incredible fear.  That is why we're now under a World Police State, of total information collection.  And when they say total, they mean total.  They mean all internet, all telephone calls, all communications.  They must have everyone, every citizen across the planet, put down as completely predictable.  Only then can they sleep well at night.  That's why they're going to such incredible extremes.


Patrick: It's really spooky.  So it's almost like you're saying, speaking of genetically altered, it's almost like it's in these people, their DNA, or their genes, where they're just breeding, they breed themselves to be like this.


Alan: Yes, and see, Plato went through this.  And Plato is a hero to these characters.  They always quote Plato and the Republic, where Plato talked about the aristocracy's right to rule.  And he called the other people the "its", the common people were called "its".  And Plato said in his day, he said, we could interbreed the common ones, tall ones together for tall offspring for picking apples, short ones for mining, all that kind of stuff.  So they knew, just like animal husbandry, they could create different varieties of humans for different tasks.  And he thought this was a wonderful idea, because they had already done it with domestic animals, you see.  Today, they've taken it a step further and went into genetics.  And there's been so many articles come out, even since Huxley's Brave New World.  In the 1930s, here they are talking about literally creating purpose-made people – ideal design, ID, that's what it really stands for – for the purpose that you are born and created to serve.  We're now on the path to that.  We have one thing standing between their goal and the present, and that's us.  Because we still like to breed the old-fashioned way.  They're trying to bring out a generation over the next thirty years, that will be genetically enhanced or modified, or even put together from scratch, to serve them better, where they themselves at the top, will not alter themselves.  They want to alter the brain as well, you see, to be more efficient, but more subservient.  And at the, I think it was the Loyola University meeting, in Louisiana, the first one.  They've got one every year now, world science meeting, to do with chipping the public.  And it's always headed off by Newt Gingrich.  From the very first meeting, in 2000, the expert from Japan on bio-engineering and the chip, said we have the chip now, the brain chip, ready to go.  He says, once it's installed, we won't have a society as we know it, because you'll hear whispers of central computers, regional computers, going to you and to those around you.  He says, think of it more like the beehive, where basically the central computers will be programming you for your tasks.  And he said, this is ready to go.  600 pages were churned out from that meeting.  He says, this is ready to go. 


Patrick: They have the technology for this already.


Alan: Yes.  He says, all we have to do now, is convince a generation to take it, to accept it.  And he says, this will be promoted, mainly through fiction, through novels, through movies, sci-fi, etc, cartoons for the young.  They'll all think they're going to be big heroes, G-Men, etc, etc.  See, it's intergenerational.  These guys literally work intergenerationally.  That's why they can always pull off their goals.  They can change us over one generation, two, three.  Now they're on a roll, where they can program us, and update us, like a computer program, every couple of years.  It's so quick now.  We adapt.  You see, the human species, like Skinner said, the behaviorist, the human species adapts so quickly, and so easily, that they can therefore create any reality, and very quickly, we think it's normal.  And then they can create the next reality, and we think that's normal.  We're in that phase now.


Patrick: Yeah, so then the internet is actually working to their advantage.


Alan: That's why they gave it to us.


Patrick: Yeah.  I've always supposed that.  It just felt like, well, if the boys, these people really didn't want this thing to happen, they never would have let it happen, would they?


Alan: Right, that's right.  In fact, Brzezinski wrote in his own book, in the 1970s, Between Two Ages.  He talked about the coming internet.  He says, a communication system that we will give to the public.  He said up until then it had only been used by the military-industrial complex.  But he said, really it will different benefits, but one of them will be to standardize the world culture.  That's why Al Gore was given the task, at least the front task, as a head piece basically, of promoting No Child Left Behind, everybody on a computer.  And if you noticed, step by step, they've dished out technology that they've always had, in pieces to us, thinking we're actually on the cutting edge.  But everything they give us is really obsolete, even before they give it to us.  And step by step it's becoming so confusing on the internet.  Programs aren't working properly.  They're locking each other up, etc.  And the answer they have said, which they knew at the very beginning, as they led us along this path, and called it your Personal Computer – that was to throw you off from thinking about your information being used by all these big government agencies – the goal was always to bring you into this new system that's coming out this year.  This will be the final system, and it's called The Cloud.


Patrick: The Cloud?


Alan: Yes.  And all major universities now in Europe are coming into The Cloud.  It's a system where you will be unable to store anything on your own computer.  You won't need to.  They'll say it's so easy.  You simply sign on with them, you get a number code, you punch the number code in, it takes you in.  Remote servers will hold all your data.  They'll do all the virus scans.  They'll do all the problem fixing.  You'll have more time to play.  That's the idea.  But the thing is, you're now totally dependent upon them for everything that you use the computer for, because they will give you access or not.  And it will be used as a form of social approval or disapproval, meaning punishment.


Patrick: What do you mean by that, Alan, social approval or disapproval?


Alan: This is a technique used at the United Nations.  It was first talked about by Lord Bertrand Russell, who worked for these boys, his whole life.  He said, eventually a system will come in, of currency, worldwide, where people will be issued credits.  You see, money can be anything, it's just numbers anyway.  But he said, eventually, say on a Monday, you'll get so many credits in your account.  Everyone will get the same.  You can't save them up.  The idea of keeping us all down and flat, all the same, equality, except for the elite of course.  So on a Monday, the next Monday, you're back at the same number again, same figure, but if you object to any part of the totalitarian system that he knew back then, in the '30s, '40s, '50s, '60s, that they were gong to bring in, they will punish you by locking out your credits, until you buckle down and comply.  That way, you can't pay your rent, mortgage, or whatever.  In the system coming up there will eventually be no private property, rental only, according to the United Nations' Agenda 21.  That's their policy.


Patrick: I think there's what, there's only about two or three percent of real, kind of circulating dirty money out there.  It's all digital already.


Alan: That's correct.  This social approval and disapproval technique is what they used in China.  That's why it's the model state.  They used it by creating social disapproval, amongst the public – you can make the public adapt to any part of your culture, a new culture – and now your neighbors will actually pull you off, if you have a second child and you're pregnant.  They will, your neighbors, at one time it was the Red Guard that would come and pull you off to force an abortion.  Now you don't have to.  Your neighbors themselves will pull you off.  So, you've created a form of stigmatization, and you use either approval, very simple Pavlovian techniques.  You're a good citizen, or you're a bad citizen. If you're a bad citizen, you have social disapproval.  Two men at the United Nations came out and boasted how they used this technique on the World Health Organization at the United Nations War on Smoking.  They were the guys who kicked it off.  And they used the same techniques through education, through school, until children literally will flap their hands in panic if they see someone lighting a cigarette twenty yards away.  That's Pavlovian technique.  The World Health Organization, and these two particular authors about this technique, said they're now working on the War on Obesity.  They're going to use the same techniques of stigmatization on those who are obese, to force them to conform.


Patrick: You hear that a lot.


Alan: Yes.  So these are all scientific techniques, that the behaviorist psychologists are using on us all the time, and the public are unaware of it, of the reasons why.


Patrick: So these guys are that good, Alan Watt.  These guys are that clever, that well organized, that well thought out, planned out.  I mean, I guess this is how they spend their day, since they don't work.


Alan: Well, also they have the universities.  You see, they have all of academia working for them now, studying, testing, trial methods, etc. 


Patrick: But unknowingly working for them, I guess. 


Alan: Oh, many of them know.  You see, there's hardly a university on the planet that does not take a grant from the big foundations.  Every university in the U.S. and Canada gets a grant from Rockefeller and the other ones.  That's how it works. 


Patrick: So when you've got the money.  Let's talk a bit about the money.  Now, as you well know, and we all know, I guess it was the Fall of '07, is that when this stuff really kicked off?


Alan: Yeah, well the money part, it was designed.


Patrick: Yeah, the money part.  Now, in your opinion, and you follow these people.  I mean, if you talk about, and we'll talk about, I want to get your ideas on this IMF and the BIS and the Fed and how these things are all tied in.  We've never really got into that with you.  Do you think this money fiasco that's going on now was a planned event?


Alan: Yes.  I've gone over this before, because here's why.  If you read the top economists, and those who teach economy, economics, they'll say in their own textbooks that it is literally, it's almost like treason for an economist ever to tell the public bad news, because the stock market is based on optimism.  It's a gambling casino.  It's the biggest gambling casino there is.  And so you always produce optimism.  So, if that comes from the top economists, when they get a President of the United States, the top man, to come out publicly and tell you that we're going to have a crash, and it could be worse than the last Great Depression, that tells you that someone has told Mr. Bush Jr, to do this.  Then you tie it into the system we've been living on since World War II, that was designed and set up, or at least it was formalized at the Bretton Woods Agreement.  And John Maynard Keynes supposedly was the author of it, the main architect as they like to call it.  Now, you go into the writings of John Maynard Keynes, an utter globalist socialist.  He believed in the elite's right to rule the masses in a scientific fashion.  And that's what socialism really is.  And he said this is Part I.  Bretton Woods was Part I.  He said, this system will last maybe fifty years.  He says, we the authors of it will not live to see it in our lifetime, Part II. 


Patrick: When was Bretton Woods?


Alan: It was right at the end...


Patrick: Of the war, right?


Alan: World War II, yeah.  And he said, Part II will come in.  Now Part II was designed for a single monetary authority to dish out the currency for the planet.  That was to be the job of the World Bank and the IMF.  They both work together.  And lo and behold, I said when they started to mention the crash coming.  I said, okay, I guess that's Bretton Woods II coming in.  And I said, look out for the IMF and the World Bank to be put up to their full power.  And after all this play-acting for the public for two or three weeks, that's exactly what the mainstream came out and said.  That's the solution we've got to have, the IMF dishing out this new credit money system to the entire planet.  We're just living a script here.


Patrick: Yeah.  And it was announced, I think just several days ago, on this April 28th, that the IMF now is laying the groundwork to print their own bonds.


Alan: That's correct. 


Patrick: So they're going to create their own money, similar to the Federal Reserve, and also, now the Federal Reserve, as you know, is now going to have their own bonds, so they don't have to even buy treasury bonds.


Alan: Yes, that's right.


Patrick: But it seems like the dollar is going to be the one, though.  I mean, this is probably their one world currency. 


Alan: It will be for a little while.  It doesn't matter which one they choose.


Patrick: Yeah, it's all the same. 


Alan: It's all the same, because, you see, the IMF regardless now has the power, to tell any country what your particular currency should be valued at.  Not the nation, but the IMF, that's the deal.


Patrick: We had a gentleman on from Argentina, who's saying, it's amazing that when they do a big project like in Argentina, they don't just print pesos and do it in pesos, they actually borrow money from the IMF.  It's amazing, Alan Watt.  They borrow money from the IMF, at interest, they borrow dollars.


Alan: Yes.  And if you go into the IMF, and the World Bank, look at the foundations of both of them.  And all they are are front organizations for the same twelve to thirteen world banking families that we're already in debt to.  So they're private corporations, you see.


Patrick: So the same people, the Goldman-Sachs, and the same people. 


Alan: It's really the coup d'état, where they're putting the cap on the pyramid.  They now own the world financially as well.


Patrick: So, let's talk about these people.  The IMF, the Goldman-Sachs, J.P. Morgan, these are the Big Boys, are they not, Alan Watt?  They own the Fed.  They own the IMF. And there's got to, is there like a wide big swath of people that are calling the shots, or are there just a few?  Would you have any way of knowing?


Alan: There's definitely, underneath the names of the companies, many families that have emerged through intermarriage with them, under many names.  They all know each other, of course.  And so you have a banking elite.  Now, they came out more openly in the 1700s.  The 1700s was a time, remember, of world revolutions, right into the 1800s.  Most of the public don't realize that there were incredible extremist groups funded by these same bankers.  In fact the bankers themselves used these revolutions to gain more wealth over countries and nations, etc.  It falls in with Albert Pike, even.  Albert Pike, he was the Pope of Freemasonry, which was a revolutionary organization, more openly then.  And he said in his own book, Morals and Dogma, he said, we must gain money by every means possible, and power and wealth, by using everything, including the stock market – and he hinted at even manipulating it too – and then become masters over the masters of the world.  Now what masters was he talking about that already existed?  He meant kings and queens and the old families that basically were hereditary and they got their money through taxations, etc.  And so they have risen up a fraternity, a banking elite, that started off within revolutionary parties as part of the revolutionary parties whose sole intention was to raise these families up to world masters of control, by economic means.  Because even then, they knew that economics was one of the most vital parts and simplest parts of warfare.  If you own the economic system of the world, you own the world.


Patrick: Yeah, you just control the money, and that's the game.


Alan: That's as simple as that.  We're all trained.  I used to wonder about it, too.  I used to think, well, who, number one authorized that money should be used in the first place, you see.  Now money didn't come in, through gradual acceptance.  Money in ancient times was forced upon people.  When conquerors would come in with a system, they'd bring the money system with them, and then they'd get the public, a generation used to using money rather than barter, and then they can start taxing it from you.  And Karl Marx was quite right, since he was trained by the bankers, he said that taxation is simply slavery under a different guise.


Patrick: Do you see anything, Alan Watt, going on in the world of finance with all that we hear, day in day out, whether it be General Motors or the IMF or things that are happening in the UK that I want to ask you about, that that's getting in their way, or posing as obstacles, or are all systems on go, where they just kind of plan, I mean, everything is just according to plan, I guess my question is.


Alan: Yeah, it's all going to plan, because everything at the top is utterly intermeshed now.  Everyone's on board.  That's it.  That's their own term.  Everyone's on board.  So all the captains of industry, all the captains of finances, etc, they're all on board on the same plan.


Patrick: So they can really step on the gas now.


Alan: Yes, they can.


Patrick: And boy, when you can inflate the dollar, this currency, and lower its value simply by printing more money, boy that's real slavery, isn't it?


Alan.  It is slavery, because everything that they supposedly borrow, this abstract nothingness that they borrow, that we have to pay back in real goods, you see, that's the technique of insuring intergenerational slavery.  We can't pay it off.  Britain only paid off its debt from World War I in the late 1990s.  It still has World War II, Korea, and so on to go. 


Patrick: Really?


Alan: Yeah.  And on top of that, you see, the U.S. is the same.  They don't realize that they're paying for all these different wars.  And now you have this massive fraudulent bailout, where they've guaranteed another ten, twelve generations of citizens paying off the debt for the present collapse. 


Patrick: You were born in Scotland, so you're certainly familiar with that part of the world.  Why does it seem that the UK is imploding or to whatever they're doing faster than the United States?  It just seems like they're really in hard straits over there, and it doesn't seem to be getting any better, as it isn't here.


Alan: It's not meant to.


Patrick: Are they ahead of the curve purposely?


Alan: They're ahead of the curve on purpose.  In the 1970s, after years of reading stuff on Malthusian depopulation, and all the big foundations and think tanks that kept harping on about depopulation and economics, etc, I looked into, sustainability was being used back in the 1920s, by the foundations.  After looking at all of that, you see, Britain itself is the leader, from the 1500s for revolution of the world.  It was the leader.  They first came out with the idea of global free trade, only if you joined that system and adopted that London system, in the 1500s; and they even gave the term of countries who would come in, they gave the term in the 1500s, most favored nation trading status.


Patrick: Oh, yeah.  You hear that a lot, don't you?


Alan: So, here you are, John Dee, at Queen Elizabeth the I's court, talking about this very stuff.  And so they wanted a world order based on Britain.  Then you pop into the future, into the 1800s, and then you find Cecil Rhodes being a front man, again, with Lord Rothschild, to set up the Rhodes Foundation, for world governmental trainees.  You train world government leaders through it.  And the US bureaucracy and politics is riddled with Rhodes Scholars; so is Germany and every other country.  And that blossomed into the Royal Institute for International Affairs, which its sole goal again, was through academia, through networking, through every institution on the planet, they'd bring us into this new Socialist World government.  And the American branch is called the Council on Foreign Relations.  It's a world that Huxley said is going to be a form of scientific dictatorship.  That ties in with Lord Bertrand Russell, who was also a member, who said that we will train everyone to obey experts.  You'll have no choices on anything.  Experts will tell you and order you as to what to do on every topic. 


Patrick: What term did you use, scientific? 


Alan: Scientific, he called it, scientific dictatorship. 


Patrick: Scientific dictatorship.


Alan: And so the scientists, the academia are used, between those who rule the economic system and the general population.  If you notice now, you have all these big pharma companies that simply lobby governments and get them to sign bills to make it mandatory that we accept every inoculation that they deem we should have.  Well, you see, that's again, we have no choice in the matter.  They're using law, the legal system, and getting things written into law.  We have the citizens of the planet, especially Britain that is the forerunner for everything that's to come, being given no choice in anything.


Patrick: So they try stuff out in Britain first?  Are the people more docile there?  Or is the media more compliant?


Alan: The media, I mean Britain with the British Broadcasting Corporation, the BBC, that's a government agency, are probably the most advanced with their techniques on control through media and propaganda, entertainment, etc, than any other country.


Patrick: I've always thought of them, as so, I don't know, upstanding and what's the word, credible, but not so?


Alan: Not so.  Everything that you see, even through fiction, is like Jacques Ellul, who was an expert on propaganda, he said that you don't realize that every cop show that you see, that really is a fictional series or whatever, or any hospital drama, especially, or anything to do with say, child's agency dramas, these are all propaganda exercises.


Patrick: Really?


Alan: Where you are getting a fictional idea of something that gradually is teaching you through fiction that it's not a service, it's an authority.  And now, all the services, just like Lenin said that they would set up across the world, you see, the police are actually a service.  You don't realize that.  The police, the medical authorities, are a service.  Child's care is a service, but now, through indoctrination only, we've come to see them as actually authorities that we obey.  And that's how you train the public, through what they call predictive programming, both fictional and non-fictional.


Patrick: Like in this country, Alan Watt, I mean, Child Protective Services can just come and take your kid if they don't like the way that you're raising them, or your neighbors complain.


Alan: Yes, and they can bring SWAT teams now with them.


Patrick: Sure.  I know I've seen some of the trucks where they did it with those people in West Texas, right, and they had trucks with masks and it was just amazing what they did.  We're talking with Alan Watt, and his website, really fun stuff, is cuttingthroughthematrix.com.  He has lots of books, dvds, CDs and stuff, and also, he will gladly accept your donations.  As our site, he's a donation site.  There's a lot of people doing a lot of wonderful work around the world, and as you can tell, he's doing this kind of research to get it out there.  And it's not the easiest thing in the world these days to make money writing books and stuff.  It just isn't.  They're artists, and it's not easy unless you're the Beatles or something, so if you've got a few extra bucks and you like what he's doing, well, send it to him, and help him pay the rent up there, because it gets cold in Canada.  My name is Patrick Timpone.  This is oneradionetwork.com, and in just a few moments, well, maybe twenty minutes or so, in that range, we're going to visit with Jeffery Smith, who is the author of Seeds of Deception.  He's one of the foremost authorities on genetically modified organisms, GMOs.  Been looking forward to this.  This fellow travels around the world, and so we should really get an earful with GMOs with Jeffery Smith, coming up soon, right here on One Radio network.


Alan Watt, this idea of eugenics, that there are these people really think, you tell me what it is, but my understanding that these people who run the world, that we've been talking about, they really believe, Alan Watt, that there's just too many people and we just have to kill a bunch of them?  Or do we want to try to get the cream of the crop, kind of Hitler's blue-eyed blond-haired thing?  Or both?


Alan: At one time, they thought they would get the cream of the crop; but now, through genetic engineering, they don't really have to.  They have the DNA of almost everyone alive.  And now, they admit, of course, that they've been collecting DNA since about the 1950s, and samples from every baby born.


Patrick: Do they take it from the baby?


Alan: Yes.  And so they have everyone through the Human Genome Project, that we didn't find out about, until it was finished.  I mean, we never know what's happening at the time.  Never.  And we're never given the real reasons, of course.


Patrick: So, when a baby is born, Alan Watt, today, they swab and get the DNA.


Alan: Yes.  In a lot of the states in the U.S. too, they also give them pinpricks, and even take a blood sample. 


Patrick: Really?  Well, I know there's spooky things that goes on in this country with the birth certificate, and all that entails, and being pledged against the debt and all of that, as you probably well know.  So, there are people, so their stated goal then, they want to really lower the population by a big number, or can you give us some idea?


Alan: Well, they've said in different figures.  David Suzuki in Canada talked about so many hundreds of thousands per day would have to die to save the world that they envisage coming into play.  He said it on national television; many of the other leaders now, I've read reports from Britain.  There's one you should look into, it's called Optimum Population Trust, another big eugenics foundation, and they've got many different figures on what they want the population to be.  But at the same time, what doesn't tie in, you see, if you really understand all their different statistics that they run by, you go into the United Nations, and they'll tell you, that their latest report says that the male fertility is down by 85% mobile sperm.


Patrick: Yes, sir.  It's amazing how low it is, now.  Lowest ever.


Alan: It really isn't amazing when you realize, we know the causes.  The causes being that literally, not only in the womb does it hit the male fetus, if the woman is using cosmetics, etc, they're all laced with bisphenol A, etc, it goes through the skin.  Also, it's been in their baby food.  They even rinse the jars with the stuff.  And then, he grows up, eating stuff, processed foods, and it's through everything.  So, definitely, the male has been targeted, and it's working.  And this is standard, if you go into warfare techniques, this is standard warfare technique.  They've known these statistics since the 1950s, and it's only now they're starting to admit to them, to the public.  We've been under a war.  You see, we're already under the process of depopulation.  One of the fastest growing industries is infertility clinics.


Patrick: Really?


Alan: Yeah.


Patrick: And as you know, as you alluded to, Alan Watt, that we talk about on our health segments, these xenoestrogens are just in every plastic and plastic is everywhere. 


Alan: And they made that popular too.  They made it popular.  And gave you no choice, until you couldn't find glass bottles with anything in them.


Patrick: Do you think this swine flu thing that's going on right now, what's your take on the one that's happening right now?  Is this going to be a big one, or what's your theory?


Alan: I don't think it will be a big one.  The reaction to it will be big, because they're training us step by step, of the inevitable one to come.  Apart from the Big Pharmas making billions of dollars in sudden grants that will be thrown at them to find a vaccine, nothing much will happen.  Gradually though, they will release something that's real, and pandemics is the best way to go.  Because a pandemic, you see, you can take a population down slowly, rather than one big mess, as you would have with an atom bomb.  We bury our dead.  So you can take it over a generation, so many dying here and there.  And then it springs up, and then it goes dormant, and springs up.  So, it's the ideal way to bring a population down over say fifty years.


Patrick: Have you seen evidence to confirm that this one going on now, this epidemic they're talking about with the swine flu is a man-made entity?


Alan: There's always evidence of it, because, I mean, I have the reports here.  I'll even read them tonight on the air of the studies that were done with the avian flu that killed, the 1918 flu, the so-called Spanish flu, and how the researchers actually put the killer one together with the common flu to see if it would work. 


Patrick: Back in 1918?


Alan: No, they've done it now, they've actually put the 1918 one, which they recovered, the live virus, they've now mixed it with the common, present flu, and they have a new killer one.  So, making them is the easiest thing to do.  It's the easiest thing to do.


Patrick: And how do they get them out there?


Alan: Well, if you'll notice that Baxter laboratories, that was part of I.G. Farben, and helped build up the German war machine, they made a mistake a few weeks ago, you probably saw it in the paper, just a mistake, where they sent out the H5N1 bird flu, along with, mixed in with the common flu virus, by mistake they said, to a whole bunch of laboratories.  Well, that's how they'll get it into the public, is through inoculations.


Patrick: And so, the one that's going on now, your theory is that this is not a big one or anything, but you'll have these, so you have kind of small explosions or small suicide bombs before big ones.  Something like that.


Alan: Something like that, because, number one, supposedly it's killed so many people in Mexico, but it's not killing people outside Mexico.  Why is that?  Why is the so-called AIDS virus killing more Africans in Africa, but not across the world?


Patrick: I've always wondered about that.


Alan: You see, what you have are ethnic specific viruses.  And I've read a report from the Porton Down military-industrial complex in Britain, the official one, where in the Daily Mail, I think it was, a reporter went in, sat for two weeks with these guys, and he was flabbergasted when they talked about having the ability to wipe out any ethnic group, with ethnic specific viruses.  They could literally be let loose, would breed multiple millions of times, and then after a week or two, it would just kill itself off.  They can actually program them like a computer. 


Patrick: Wow.  Man, that's way spooky.  That's beyond spooky, Alan Watt.


Alan: That's how far, yeah.  Now that's how far ahead they've allowed us to know they are. 


Patrick: I also want to ask you a bit about this idea, and I wrote myself a note when you said it, that the technology that we get, we can skip around a little bit, if you don't mind.  That the technology that we get is out of date when we get it.  And you know, people say that.  You hear people say that all the time, but I don't think they know what they're saying, but it is interesting, isn't it?


Alan: It's interesting.  As I say, the initial part was to get everyone on computer, until no one can do without it. 


Patrick: Right, and they've got close to that.


Alan: Yes.  People at one time, up until the '70s even, people took stock in stores with paper and pencil, and there was no problem adding things up.  It all worked perfectly well.  And suddenly, you have people now, who can't imagine life without the computer.  So, we're being trained step by step from as they say, this is the cutting edge stuff this year, it was buy this, and it's really obsolete before they gave it to us.  We're being trained all the way down, to the small handheld do-it-all screens, until eventually they're going to give you a chip.  And it's as simple as that.  This is a training exercise, down to what was really the destination, and that's until they say, my God, this chip implant, you'll see it all inside your mind.  Now, they already have the helmets coming out this year.


Patrick: Helmets?


Alan: Helmets that will give you the same thing.  And where actually there will be no touch screen there, you will actually see it in your mind.  And this is in all the science magazines, and you're going to see people in the streets with this thing on, waving their hands about, touching nothing that you can see, and I'll guarantee you it will take off like a house on fire.


Patrick: Oh, yeah.  Everybody will want to have them. 


Alan: They'll want to have that, yeah.


Patrick: What do you make of this whole thing with Facebook and Twitter and all that?  How does this fit into their plan?


Alan: Well, again, it's free.  And everyone's using it to put all their data on.  And just today, in Britain, they've now announced that it isn't just the big spy agencies that can go into all your data for total information network, now your average cop can go into all your data, your daily transmissions and receptions on everything to do with information.  So the more they put out there that the people fall for, and use, and they do.  My God, people are putting their whole life stories up on Facebook.  So therefore, they're giving them, you see, again, going back to what they said, in a totally controlled society, everyone must be completely predictable. 


Patrick: Predictable.


Alan: And therefore they do all these surveys on you, who you contact, your friends, what are their interests, what's the common things that bind you all together, and they have all these different sequences and subroutines they call them, and you are predictable.  Therefore, one day, if you break your routine, you'll get a knock on the door to find out what's wrong with you. 


Patrick: What's coming up for us, do you think, because you must have some ideas, and wake up in the middle of the night, with visions, I would think.  You get into this stuff so much about geo-politically, with wars in Iran, and all of that.  How does this play into, I mean, one has to believe, let me first, let me ask you, is this all controlled as well? 


Alan: It's all controlled.


Patrick: I mean, who attacks who?  Who attacks who?


Alan: Oh, absolutely.  We know for a fact that the last Bush administration, before Bush was in, the boys behind him, Wolfowitz, drafted it up.  It was called the New American Century.  And they had a policy for geo-political warfare across the planet, with the right to go in as first strike, and reshape the whole of the Middle East and standardize it.  They've got to get rid of the last of Islamic culture.  See, Islam is the culture.  It's not just a religion, it's the culture, everything revolves around it.  So they're standardizing the planet.  Everyone must be on board for this New World Order, education-wise, the same inoculations, the same food, all the rest of it.  So, all they're doing is doing the last tidying-up job.  And also too, making sure that their own boys get in to own all the resources that that country has to offer.


Patrick: So, you see something happening soon in Iran, if you had to predict?


Alan: Not so much on Iran.  I think Iran, they'll play the card for a while to keep us all on edge.  If you notice, since 2001, we've had one crisis after another.  If you put them all together and scattered them out through the last few hundred years it would sound more natural.  But here you have all of this crammed in to a matter of nine years.  We've had crisis after crisis after crisis after crisis.  This is the age of crisis creation, and the public will never be told the real reasons behind any of it. 


Patrick: Just keep them on their toes.


Alan: Yes.  Until actually, see, once you have a herd stampeding, all you have to do is have one or two guys at the head, to point them off in the left or the right direction.  They'll go anywhere they're pointed.  So it's constant change.  And this is a phase they said they'd bring us up to.  Through crisis after crisis, we adapt to constant change until we're rammed through into a whole new world system that we'd never ever have thought of. 


Patrick: So, it's going to be a slow burn.  Do you think there's anything dramatic going to happen, like 2012, or something like that, or just a slow burn, similar to what they're doing to the value of the dollar?


Alan: It's generally been intergenerational Fabian, that's why they call it the Fabian technique, of slow incrementalism.  Once they're on a roll in a certain area, they can certainly really push it faster if need be.  And since they have the pulse on the public, and all our data, and what we're thinking about things, they know how far and fast to push any part of it. 


Patrick: There are no secrets then. 


Alan: No, no.  There's only one agenda, one plan, and it's the regulated planned world society, where you will be born, if they need you.  You will be born or created to serve the World State.  And that's why you've got this service coming out.  Britain's brought out mandatory service.  Canada's bringing it out now.  The US is bringing it.  This is the CFR, where they said that the world they would bring into being would be one where your sole duty would be to serve the World State.


Patrick: We read something the other night, Alan Watt, on the air, where the CFR, all the major contributors to the CFR were all these same people.  They had a whole list of the top contributors, the J.P. Morgans and the Goldman-Sachs...


Alan: And Rockefellers.


Patrick: And all of that.  What's this with Goldman-Sachs?  How come these boys are so big?  I mean, they're right in there, aren't they?


Alan: Oh, they're right in there.  And again.


Patrick: Does this go way back too?  Like in the Rothschild, kind of old money like that?


Alan: That's right.  And you also had the Kuhn & Loeb Company and they're all interrelated in fact.  They're all members of the same families.  And we get thrown off by some of the surnames, but they're actually members of the same families.  In fact, Jacob Schiff that was sent over to start up Kuhn & Loeb Company, was brought up in the Rothschild home.  So he was a Rothschild by a different mother, obviously.


Patrick: So the bankers intermarry as well?  Just like the other guys?


Alan: Oh, absolutely.


Patrick: Boy, these guys are good, aren't they?


Alan: Well, I read a book, it's an excellent book to read.  It's by Ian Taylor.  It's called In the Minds of Men: Darwin and the New World Order.  And he's a scientist himself, but he does document the hereditary lineage of the Darwins, and the Darwin family, in the 1700s, in the 1800s too, had only intermarried for five generations with one other family, and that was the Wedgwood family of the pottery fame.  Wedgwood pottery.  And so every wife, every mother was a Wedgwood, and every father was a Darwin. 


Patrick: What was that about?


Alan: They were already doing selective, special breeding for certain qualities, back in the 1700s. 


Patrick: Oh, I see.


Alan: As were the banking families. 


Patrick: And the banking families, they continue to do that to this day. 


Alan: Absolutely, they generally marry their nieces.


Patrick: I thought that doing that would kind of make you crazy.  Oh, well I guess it does.  Is that where that comes from, that whole idea?


Alan: That's right.  However, these guys have it sort of worked down to a certain, there's actually a formula, just how far distant they can go.  And I'm sure today now, I'm certain today with the genetic engineering that they can overcome any problems. 


Patrick: Oh, so, yeah.  I guess when one takes to heart what you said about everything is obsolete, I guess one can only imagine, Alan Watt, of what they have technologically that we don't know about.


Alan: Absolutely.


Patrick: I mean, it must be amazing.


Alan: It must be amazing.  Because long before Watson came out with the double helix and genetics, you find that the greatest mathematician of his day, and that was Rutherford, who did all the calculations for the Royal Society, for the Great Pyramids and so on, he said in his own memoirs in the 1920s that he had been working for years as a mathematician on genetics.  Now, if they hadn't discovered the helix and the genes and so on, but suspected they were there, you would not need a mathematician.  So they'd already discovered it, way back then.  How you control a world is always to give an obsolete reality, a present reality to the public, while you are always at least a hundred years or more, maybe even hundreds ahead of the public.


Patrick: What do you mean an obsolete reality to the public?


Alan: You always make the public believe they're on the cutting edge.  First by their education, and then we're all saying the same things, so we really do believe we're on the cutting edge.  We read the science magazines that reinforces this, oh, they're working on this, and one day they hope to.  And then you have all the TV documentaries, but really, that's to keep you thinking that all this is still to come.  In reality, the boys at the top hold onto power, because they already have broken through all these barriers a long time ago.


Patrick: Are there any things that will mess up the plan that these people cannot control?


Alan: There's only one thing.  There's only one thing and that's the individual to literally start to say, NO, to everything that comes down the pike that you must, must, must—NO.  Because, what we're doing right now, whether we realize it or not, we're consenting to everything that's happening to us by our silence.  That's a legal consent. 


Patrick: By our silence. 


Alan: And if life and individuality and the right to choose in your life and decide for yourself, is your right, then you better demand it.  First you must assert it, until it's self-evident, I have it, so get off my back.  If we don't, we won't be able to move without permission.  We're almost there now. 


Patrick: It is interesting, because from time to time I hear myself say to listeners when we talk about this stuff, you know, like the FDA, telling you you can or cannot do this.  We're to the point where all you can do, is just say, I'm not going to do that.  No, just leave me alone.  You don't have authority.  No.  Because, if people say no, that would really stop them, because they don't really have enough military or anything else to control everybody, if everybody just said no, do they?


Alan: The Emperor has no clothes.  The technique is, we've all been trained to comply.  You see, a generation has already passed that were taught and trained to comply to authority.  Before that, literally, the average US person would stand up and just tell them where to go.  But it's completely reversed now, through gradual training and a generation brought up through the schooling system.  So, people themselves must assert to themselves the right to choose.  What they want to live.  How they want to live.  What they want to work at, etc.  And what authority you will accept for the public good, and what authority is not for the public good.  And we've got to start to tell them very quickly, because, if we don't, they've already told us where they're taking us.  It's a straightjacket.


Patrick: They really make no bones about it, right?


Alan: There's none at all.  The US military put out a document, a whole bunch, a PDF actually, on their think tanks' projection for the next fifty years.  It's identical with Britain's one and NATO.  I've got them both here.  I read them on the air.  And one of them was 90 pages, from Britain, and they see nothing but riots starting, from about 2012, right up until about 2050.  Now they're not telling you why all these riots will start, but they know.  They're going to push every button to get us to comply and we will kick a little bit against the pricks here and there.  And there is going to be uprisings and riots, etc, but they have already decided, they're taking us this way, regardless. 


Patrick: And the money idea of this stuff, Alan Watt, it's just been in our face, unabashed, just like, well, here's what we're doing and we're going to, you know, we're going to print this money and we're going to lend it the Treasury and the Treasury is going to give it back to the people that printed the money and what are you going to do about it?


Alan: That's right.


Patrick: Unbelievable.


Alan: Yeah, exactly.  What are you going to do about it?  Yeah.  Ha, ha, ha. 


Patrick:  What they do, because they asked them to tell what did they do with this money?  There's trillions unaccounted for, and these guys are just stealing them.  Well, Alan Watt, it's always fun to talk to you.  You know, I think, after talking to you, we're just going to go out and plant our garden and buy some gold.  I mean, that's probably the safest thing to do at this point.  How do you protect yourself and your life from all of this?  How do you stay out of the matrix? 


Alan: You stay away from most of society as best you can, and you don't fall for all the freebie stuff they give you.  You don't go for popular junk foods, all of that stuff.  You've got to keep your mind alert as best as you can.


Patrick: And that's how you're able to keep a clear head, and see the writing on the wall, by doing that, and not getting too involved with the rest of the world like that. 


Alan: That's what you have to do.


Patrick: And do you like your life?


Alan: Oh, I like living.  I mean it's exciting to be alive and be aware of what's really happening.  It doesn't confuse you.  And you have the satisfaction that they haven't conquered your mind yet. 


Patrick: So you wake up jazzed, and energized to do more and learn more.


Alan: I'm awful busy too.  That's what takes up my time.  There's so much to do, but yeah, I like the moments when you can sit back and really go into a world within your mind and explore them.


Patrick: Well, Alan Watt, we're glad you're there.  God bless you.  Cuttingthroughthematrix.com.  Tell folks quickly some of the things they can see on your website.


Alan: Yeah, you can go into cuttingthroughthematrix.com and you can see the books I have for sale.  You've got hundreds of audios for talks I've given in the past, where I give you the histories of this big system, and you can download them.  I've also got a site, alanwattsentientsentinel.eu, where you can download transcripts of these, and print them up if you want to read them.


Patrick: And all those links are on your website, cuttingthroughthematrix.com


Alan: Yes.


Patrick: Thanks for being here, Alan.  All the best to you.  Bye-Bye.  My name is Patrick Timpone.  He's Alan Watt and he's the real deal.  He is not thinking in the box, by any stretch of the imagination.  It's always an honor to talk to him, and we do it from time to time, Mr. Alan Watt.




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